Foxhole Symphony
Foxhole Symphony
A Case for Christ: What Do You Believe In?
What happens when a self-professed skeptic encounters undeniable evidence of faith? This episode of the Foxhole Symphony Podcast takes you on a thought-provoking journey inspired by personal transformation and belief. Drawing from a moving devotional by Justin Camp and a riveting interview with Lee Strobel on the Sean Ryan Show, we explore how declaring one’s faith openly can be a catalyst for profound change. We'll share stories of evolution in our own spiritual lives and highlight the pivotal role that a community of like-minded men can play in strengthening one's commitment to faith.
Faith is as much a choice as it is a journey, and we dive into the heart of what it means to believe actively in Jesus Christ. It’s not just about declaring faith but also about living it out loud, even when doubts arise. The episode discusses how aligning actions with beliefs can be risky yet rewarding, urging listeners to seek a community to support this courageous path. By exploring the stories of skeptics like Lee Strobel, we underscore the importance of being part of a supportive network and the transformative power of surrendering to a life driven by faith.
Throughout the episode, we reflect on the ongoing nature of the spiritual journey, embracing both the triumphs and tribulations that come with it. Authenticity and hope become central themes as we discuss the importance of maintaining a heartfelt and candid relationship with God and each other. We express our gratitude for the influential figures who've shaped our spiritual journeys and invite you to partake in a prayer for hope and healing. Join us as we navigate the unique paths of faith and the unparalleled strength found in a community that fosters growth and abundant life.
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Speaker 2:In our foxhole. Men are equipped to build relationships that foster belonging, accountability and growth.
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Speaker 3:Hello everyone. They call me the Maestro, and we are back in the foxhole where we actively pursue belonging, accountability and growth through authentic relationships. No masks, no agendas, just iron sharpening iron. Mark and Steve are in the foxhole today and they are making their case for Christ. Whether you are on the fence or a Jesus freak, it's going to be a good one. Get comfortable, open your notes app and let's get this symphony started.
Speaker 2:Hey, welcome back to Foxhole Symphony Podcast. I'm Sarge here with my good friend Mark. Just call me Frosty, hey Frosty.
Speaker 1:So what I want to talk to you about today is something that is motivated by two events in my life in the last week. One is a devotional from Justin Camp that basically said and I'm paraphrasing, of course basically said men, every now and then you've got to stop and declare what you believe in, stand up together and say this. This is what I believe and this is why I'm with the men. I'm with because we believe that's one. Number two is our good friend, lee Strobel. I don't, I'm just kidding, I don't know but Lee, the author of the Case for Christ and the Case for Heaven, the Case for the Gospels and the Casebooks that apparently have sold some 14 or 15 million copies over the last years. I was on a podcast I listened to called the Sean Ryan Show, and Sean is a newly converted Christian and was just asking phenomenal questions. Actually, I got a preview of this Christmas Eve, but in the last two and a half days, three days I've been listening to this three-hour podcast and it's incredible. It's just great. It continues to be. I still have 20 minutes to go. It continues to be great for me to hear someone who has Sean's life experience and then a newfound faith and asking those kinds of questions based on his position in the world. He's a dad and a family man and won't go into the Sean Ryan story, but just really motivational for me to realize I take so much for granted about this. And I'm not just being self-deprecating, I'm saying, oh, you believe a lot of things that probably have people scratching their heads, mark. Like your faith is founded in faith. Right, I believe, yeah. So I thought you and I could spend a few minutes talking about and declaring what we believe the past in another episode or in our lives but I don't want to let that dilute what is real. And what is real is. I have a faith born from a curiosity in people of faith Like why do you believe this? That's kind of how it started. And then some attractiveness of men that I respected and I'm like well, they believe and that's the kind of guys I want to hang out with. So maybe believing is a good idea. Yeah, you know, these were some.
Speaker 1:The genesis of my walk was, you know, I've got a men's group going on downstairs, but you know, and it's good, of course. You know, band of brothers good thing, yeah, but my, but my ability to stand up and declare and defend my faith has only come to fruition in my 60s. And here I sit in front of you. I feel today I am ready, I am prepared for that conversation.
Speaker 1:Without being able to name a chapter or verse, by the way, I don't want to speak for you I know a few things and I know generally where to find things in the Bible and I could probably quote them. Badly, it's the Vesper edition or version. But my passion for my faith and my belief in a savior who died for me that I can easily recant the story of believing in a God, you know, to admitting my sin, to repenting and turning away, knowing that I'm not going to get to heaven without a knowledge of why he died for me personally, right, and then us, you know. So all of that leads me to I, I, I want to stand in front of you and anybody, both people listening, and say I love, I love my savior and Jesus, and I am here and I believe. And call me, talk to me, let me know what questions you have, cause I'm not going to know the answers, but I'll, I'll help find out. Yeah, that's how strongly I feel about it.
Speaker 2:It's interesting, when you brought this up this morning I was like, wow, I wonder, like of those who listen, like I kind of made the assumption that they're they're followers of Jesus. You know and know what they believe and why they believe it. But I mean, you know, perhaps that's not the case. I don't know that, we don't know. But I hope some of them don't, right, Really.
Speaker 1:Cause. That means we're getting one person per episode. That might grow closer to God, Well amen.
Speaker 2:Yeah, um, and I, I love, I love Lee Strobel story and the case for Christ, and you know, it's always exciting to me to hear these stories of you know people like Lee, or you know scientists. I love hearing these stories of these scientists who seek to you know, prove or disprove. You know the uh, the truth of the gospel Um, and it's interesting, there's um, uh, a scientist that actually was was brought up to me recently and I I can't recall his name, um, but if you, if, if you search evidence for the resurrection, you'll, you'll, you'll find, you'll find this guy.
Speaker 1:He's on the first page.
Speaker 2:He's a scientist who became a Christian and it's interesting because he kind of says that the there's sort of. Well, let me just say this there's going back to the case for Christ, right. Going back to the case for Christ, there's the sort of biblical slash, historical slash, scientific case for Christ, right. And then there's the personal testimony right Case for Christ.
Speaker 1:His personal testimony or ours? Ours.
Speaker 2:How we have experienced God in our lives. And so for me, I just think of it in those two. Maybe probably an oversimplification, but there are three historical claims, which are biblical of course, that are typically looked at or summarized when there's a discussion around the case the case for christ or evidence right so jesus was crucified and died, which is pretty much unrefuted I mean it's unrefuted right like yeah, there's enough eyewitness, historically right, historic, there's, there's, there's very few historians or scientists that would that, that would say that, that, that Right that a man named Jesus was crucified by the Romans at that time.
Speaker 2:Right, yes, who? Who claims to be God? Yeah, Okay, Right. Then there's the second one is his body was buried in a tomb that was found empty a few days later. And then the third is the resurrection right that his disciples, some of his disciples, experienced encounters with who they believed to be his newly resurrected body, and you know, all are backed by historical evidence and as well as scholarly consensus, and together there's a compelling case for the resurrection, but it it, you know the the the case for Christ hinges on the resurrection.
Speaker 1:Right, I was going to say, of the three, the last one is the one that I think people who don't want to believe or or or don't believe hang their hat on Right Right. All right, I can get in with that. He was killed, okay, of course he was buried, everybody's buried.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:But number three.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then there's you know, it's interesting because there's these, these eyewitness accounts.
Speaker 1:A friend and foe. Keep in mind Right People on both sides.
Speaker 2:That's right, right, that's right and that has carried through right to current day, right here sitting. Go, wow, like how I've experienced God and yet I mean in very, very powerful ways, and and, and yet still have these little crises of faith, right, and then I experienced God and I have these, this crisis of faith, and I experienced God, and I just watched you do the rollercoaster right, it's like, um, that's our real life, yes, but as as you look back, as I look back, way back, and I go, oh my gosh, like the, the, the miracle of my life just sitting here, breathing, talking to you right now.
Speaker 2:It's a miracle. And then you know the miracles that I've witnessed and that we've witnessed, you know, throughout the last 30 plus years walking with Jesus is my case for Christ that I have to often remind myself of to build my faith Right. And and it's it's interesting for me, you know, I'm a risk taker and I have become, like he's borderline, addicted to seeing God move and experiencing him in fresh new ways.
Speaker 1:Because he does.
Speaker 2:Right, you've been given little. And here's the thing it's not just, it's not simply the high notes, the highlight reels Jesus' highlight reel, right, it's a good one Of miracles but also experiencing him in the low lights, you know, in the mess, in the suffering, in the pain and everything in between, and the pain and everything in between, all that coming to a place where you know learning to experience God in the mundane, like Brother Lawrence talks about, right, and just in the simplest, you know, quietest moments, you know and and and, and, experiencing intimacy with him, um and so I don't know. Those are the things that came to mind when you brought this topic up.
Speaker 1:I love the fact that it was made to be reflective right, looking at the big picture. I already talked about it, without any prompting from either one of us. I'm like, I'm 18 years and 30. And it's a lifetime adventure. I think what we're making clear my truth is yes, I am believing in some things that are head scratchers and that I don't fully understand.
Speaker 1:I admit it, there are parts of the story, you know. You know I'm into the details. I love the, the, the celebrating his birth. I know there are people that would ask me you believe that a baby was born and this is the backstory less than ideal circumstances. And then, 33 years later the backstory, less than ideal circumstances. And then, 33 years later, you know, and by the way, the baby is born and then disappears off the face of the earth, except for one little, you know, 10 year old. He gets lost in the in the temple, and then you don't hear about him again for 20 years. And there he is and suddenly, three years and he died and is buried and comes back from the dead. Yeah Right, I can hear it and I've read it. I don't know that anyone has specifically asked me about it, but I can understand why you'd have some questions about that story.
Speaker 2:Well, yes, until you move outward from that story in the book Right, back and forward and look at the whole story. From that story in the book right Back and forward, and look at the whole story. You know the whole mission of God, right, and you know, all of a sudden, and you start looking at, you know creation, you start looking at genealogy, you start looking at the prophecies and you start looking at the prophecies and you start looking at the whole story and the kingdom coming back to earth and all of a sudden it's a whole lot harder to say I don't know.
Speaker 1:Right, and I couldn't agree with you more. You're just making me give another shout out to the Bible project, right.
Speaker 1:Because, they say the whole story, the whole biblical story, from the first words of Genesis to the last of Revelation, is a story that leads you to Jesus. What I just did in 45 seconds from you know. A baby is born and then there's a resurrection and an ascension, right. So there's so much more to it and it's such a rich and beautiful story. If you're going to invest, I would shout out and say if you're going to invest time in figuring out how things work in the world, the Bible story is a great one to invest some time in. Yeah, right, I, I. You know how much I love just reading about the 360 details of this story. We've chosen to believe it. Yeah, and it's a choice, sarge. Yes, we've chosen to believe this and many don't.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and then I mean not to get too far off track here, but I Us Well, no, I just yes, it's a choice to investigate, it's a choice to believe, and then there's a choice regarding what that means and how that. What does that mean for me? If I choose to believe, then what should my life look like? In other words, what are the implications of that choice to believe?
Speaker 1:So you're a child of God. Now what?
Speaker 2:Right yeah.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and you know, that's the part for me that I've just become. You know, when you, when you mentioned making the case for Christ, I'm like you know, like I am, I've become very passionate about joining God at work and seeing people's faith activated, because I think, in large part, most people who profess to be followers of Jesus, their faith is not activated. It's, it's, it's pretty, it's pretty quiet, it's under the layers and under the radar, it's secondary to the life we live, versus the, the reverse. And and I don't know, you know, for me, at this point in my life, I'm going man, know, you know, for me, at this point in my life, I'm going man. There's a sense of urgency that God has put in my heart. Say like nothing, nothing else matters Nothing, zero, zilch, zippo matters more. So, what, so, so, what, so what? And therein lies the crisis of faith.
Speaker 2:For me, then, it's okay. What does it mean to drop my nets? What does it mean to take up my cross? What does it mean, you know, as I read through the scriptures and I go, okay, yeah, well, that's nice for them, right, well, wait a minute. Like what is God calling us to right now, current day? He's given us the gift of breath. We don't know how many we have left, so what? What are we going to do with them?
Speaker 1:And you have decided to take the action-oriented approach, to the point where you make life choices, to draw yourself into areas, geographically speaking, for myself, where God has me right now. That is, you know, the choice I had to make.
Speaker 2:He's brought me to a place in my faith where he has said Sarge, because he calls me Sarge. Steve Arino, what are you going to do, pal, stay long. What are you going to do?
Speaker 1:pal.
Speaker 2:Stay long. What are you going to do? Is it just lip service? Or are you going to really drop your nets? And you know, leave it all behind and step out of the boat and follow me, and, and, and that's like, that's scary.
Speaker 2:It's scary and, and you know, at the same time, I'm jacked up because I'm a risk taker, I'm a radical and that's. You know like I love living on the edge, but from a faith perspective. You know, listen, there's a, there's a whisper in my ear all day, every day, going. Are you out of your mind? What are you doing? Yeah, and not just a whisper in my ear, but people in my life, plenty of people. You crazy. What are you doing? What are you doing?
Speaker 2:Yeah, and and world in the enemy, Well, yeah, what are you doing? Yeah, and. And world in the enemy? Well, yeah, and. And you know. And then there's, you know, God's soft, still voice that I've spent countless hours leaning into attempting to hear, you know. But the enemy said oh, did you really hear him say that, Just like he did in the garden? Right, how? About that Is that really, you know, I mean so anyway what do you believe?
Speaker 1:Can you stop Tell? Tell everybody listen. What do you believe?
Speaker 2:I believe, uh, I believe that Jesus Christ was born, died and resurrected for me personally and every other single person individually, that he died and rose again because sin entered the world right and there was no other way to come to the Father but through the life, death and resurrection of Jesus Christ Great. Come to the Father, but through the life, death and resurrection of Jesus Christ Great. I believe, beyond that, that he's faithful, he's just, he's good, he cares deeply for us, knows us by every molecule and chromosome and knit us together in our mother's womb. That he's faithful, that he's trustworthy. And those are really for me right now, those are really critical beliefs. Those are critical beliefs.
Speaker 1:I need to believe that right Like I need, to believe that right, right Like I need to believe. Yes, I feel it. I can feel it coming from him.
Speaker 1:And I love it. Thank you, I wanted to cause I took that opportunity earlier to introduce why we're talking about this, so people know what we believe and so much of that story I I have watched you and watched you walk and talk and put your hands and feet and mouth to work for God over these years. Look, it's better together. I just want people to know if you're going to try and figure this all out by yourself. I'm not saying you can't, and it is a very personal journey, but it is so much more fruitful and rich to do it with someone who believes what you believe. Yeah, and it find those people, please, it is.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you're right, it's not impossible, but boy is it tough. I mean, I, I, you know, I had zero biblical community or connection when I came to faith in Christ through a stranger on the street corner. God bless him. But he gave me a little, a little Bible. I went home and I read through it. I'm like I don't understand this. I have no idea what I'm reading here. What is this? Just just reading the words and you know, and it wasn't until God placed me in community that you know, started to understand a little bit more, grow, and so through that, I don't know, dude, I get it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and I. I was completely lost, even though I had been found by you know, a stranger on a street corner.
Speaker 1:Right, lost but found Completely lost. No, I get it and I, I, I remember, like it was yesterday, because now I'm, I'm an adult. Remember, just remember, just put on your. If you're putting on your glasses, I'm an adult.
Speaker 1:And, of course, what man wants to sit in a room and say, can someone please explain this to me? Because that was how I felt and what I did to offset it is what you'd expect me to do is do I would get engaged and do activities until I hoped someone would explain some of the Bible stories to me. And then how does this fit together and the things that I take a little bit more for granted today because I have learned? But this began for me coming from a all right, I realized I'm not going to do this on my own. I can only read so much and listen to so many podcasts I found friendships started asking some questions and then some of those answers, by the way, were like no, I don't think that's what it is. And you go through this journey and it's like just a quest to learn and to understand, to absorb some of these things we find to be true today.
Speaker 1:This is a journey of discovery for me every day and I love that part of it. Some of it comes from just being quiet and listening for the voice. Some of it comes from reading the word. Some of it comes from listening to podcasts. Some comes from talking to you and my other friends doing devotionals together, things of that sort. All of these enhance and increase my faith to the point where we two grown men with 110 years on the planet together can stand up and look anybody in the eye and say we believe.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and again I just want to. I think it's important enough to repeat, and that is it's one thing to believe, but it's not enough. It's not enough. There are certainly words in the Bible that talk about believing, but when I look at the words of Jesus over and over and over and over again, you know it, it, the, the, the calling was to follow him. So my point is it's it's one thing to believe, right, it's another thing to quote, unquote we these are, these are words we use culturally put your faith in, right. What does that mean? What means you're following him right right.
Speaker 2:Um, you know um, in matthew 7, not everyone who says to me, lord, lord, will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only those who, only the one who does the will of my father in heaven.
Speaker 1:Um well, let me ask a question a different way, so you can explain it for me to understand it, and I think others will too. Are you suggesting that we can have the faith that we share without saying we believe? Like is belief not a prerequisite? Like saying I believe in God, oh it is, it is. It is you believe it is.
Speaker 2:Absolutely.
Speaker 1:It is Okay, so belief isn't unnecessary.
Speaker 2:No, it's better to believe. It's just not the whole story, I think. I think we unfortunately um because of the emphasis on God's grace, which I'm a big believer in. I believe in the grace of God. Thank you, jesus. Right His hand is in the air. We, as the church, tend to just live our lives as though our belief in him doesn't really matter all that much.
Speaker 1:All right Now. So I believe, now what?
Speaker 2:And I believe there are potentially eternal implications.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:I agree with that Right and the importance. It goes back to what you were saying about community, because it goes back to the importance of our actions over our words. Right Right To to say I believe something and act like I don't is a big problem, big yeah. And that's why I started out by saying like so, what so then what? Because the, the, the. And that's why I started out by saying like so, what so then what? Because if you don't put some action behind it, your words are empty.
Speaker 1:Faith without works is dead, amen. Okay, so it's a long road for some people just to get to. I believe A long road 100%.
Speaker 2:Okay, big step. Yeah to I believe A long road. 100%, okay, big step, yeah. If I'm in front of a person that says, you know what I just can't get, choose to follow him, allow your faith to be built, then believe.
Speaker 1:Okay, that's what the apostles did, because that's right, that's what they did.
Speaker 2:They are a great example of that story, because as I do, as I choose to follow him, what begins to happen is I'm allowing God to change me as I follow him. It's the following of him, it's the apprenticeship with him that actually allows him to change my heart, or invites him to change my heart, my mind and my way of life. The more I choose to surrender my life to Jesus which doesn't it may start with belief, but doesn't necessarily happen through belief. It happens through my actions. I have to surrender. So as I choose to surrender my life to Jesus, the more I grow in my relationship with him and learn to trust in him, building my belief.
Speaker 1:Right, and while you're doing all of that, I have to be sure at least I believe this, I hope you do there's a supernatural part of this. If it was just a process you had to go through, for sure Okay.
Speaker 2:All right, so it's totally supernatural.
Speaker 1:God's at work in this in ways I do not understand, but I can tell you I have felt it. I'm I'm holding my chest right now. I have felt the power. I have seen miracles I have. I have watched men at work that I trust and believe. You're one of them, yeah, and I don't understand it all the time, and you know what? I don't need to anymore. Yeah, my desire to figure this all out so it makes sense to me is diminished every day.
Speaker 2:For sure, but there aren't. I agree and I I stand with you in that, and at the same time, there are some patterns that we've seen and experienced that are almost undeniable, right, I mean like and experienced that are almost undeniable right.
Speaker 2:I mean, like the countless people that have said, I've said this on my knees in a state of utter desperation, at 21 years old, four years after, saying I believe in you, jesus, and praying a prayer of salvation on that street corner and my life being in shambles. After that, four years later, on my knees in the street alone, saying God, if you're real, if you're real now, is that something that would be said by a man who believes God? If you're real, yes, cause we're broken. Like, prove it. Yeah, take my life, challenge of God.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And, and I've heard that so many times, I've heard that sort of you know, and and I think like it's interesting, right, it's like I believe, but I don't believe, but if, if, if, and at the same time like I'm talking to God, right, like.
Speaker 1:I don't believe this doesn't make any sense at all, but I'm talking to you, right, and that's the.
Speaker 2:You know this, this sort of like I've come to the end of myself. How about that? I've come to the end of myself? How about that? I've come to the end of myself. Dude, there's a whole episode and a half. I've got nothing Like place of surrender. That's it. It's, it's, it's, but it's that action. It's the. I'm on my knees and I'm begging. I'm begging Like take my life, show up, come into my life, cause I life, because I prayed this prayer four years ago and I don't see you, I don't hear you, my life's a mess and I don't understand why.
Speaker 1:And look what he's done and he shows up Funny and he shows up and he does that for each of us and it doesn't mean he's going to solve all your problems.
Speaker 2:No, but what he says is now we can get started. Yes, oh, here you are, yeah.
Speaker 1:You know I've been waiting for you.
Speaker 2:Oh, I haven't shown up. What have you been doing the last four years so running?
Speaker 1:To close, in a world full of immediate answers, in a world where, with a few flicks of your thumb oh boy, be careful, right, you can get bad info, I would just say that can we agree to invite people to experience God through his word, through community and friends? Yeah, follow him, yeah, because he's worth believing in. Yeah, yes.
Speaker 2:Yes, amen, absolutely 100%. Yeah, amen, absolutely 100%, and there's nothing that's even remotely close to worth it.
Speaker 1:Nothing and we have some life experience, so we're not coming at this from you know, like we just woke up. We have tested the waters of what the world has to offer, and for me, I would just say that I find my time close to God is the best time, amen, and I like being with you, but you pale in comparison to my God. Amen, let's hope so my goodness, let's hope so.
Speaker 1:So we have. I think this could promote other episodes and our disclaimer Sarge. We agree that we are not trained theologians or counselors or preachers.
Speaker 2:No, and if you ask me tomorrow I'll probably have different answers. I can't you know. I got no. I mean I'm kidding, but but I say all this with, you know, a childlike faith that's filled with hope.
Speaker 1:It's, it's, it's that it's true. His faithful love endures forever. Part of it is praying that that's true every day.
Speaker 2:It's filled with hope, Like I hope God continues to show up Like I've seen you show up before. Would you do it again? Because like and I'm, as I, sort of hold my breath.
Speaker 1:That he's not going to do a 40 years in the desert thing to you. Yes, right, that's right. I mean, that's real, it is, it is. Oh, you're in for some quiet time. Excuse me.
Speaker 2:Right Twitch. That's not what I had in mind.
Speaker 1:This is not what I had in mind, lord. Can we look at this menu again, because I picked. These are the columns I picked from, and that wasn't it. I'm not ready for some quiet time, but we enjoy our quiet time with the Lord. I enjoy my time with you. It is great to sit with you and talk.
Speaker 2:You too. I think we should. Another episode, perhaps next, but we should talk about because I've had countless people ask me in the last six months because I've said things like I've heard the Lord say this, or God is calling me to this. And I've had countless people who are believers say what do you mean by that? How did you, how did you hear that that's a good one and um, and I'm like well, how much time do you have? So it's maybe another episode.
Speaker 1:Let's do it so quick. Shout out to Sean Ryan and his podcast to. Lee Strobel to Justin Camp and to you, my friend, because it's just great, Great that we can stir all this up in a pot and not have to go eat it right away, because you know it's part of the sauce that we're making for Christmas.
Speaker 2:And I'll say this we sat in a room together doing the Experiencing God study, right by Henry Blackaby. I don't know how many years ago it was probably 15 years ago Easy, right, and here we are, right. And I remember back then we kind of looked at each other Like we'd look down at the book. We didn't know each other all that well. We looked at each other and I'm like, uh, how's this work again, you know? And so like, here here we are, you know, having experienced God in such enormously powerful and impactful ways. But we did, we sought it out. We sat in that room and said, like well, experiencing God, I want to experience God. How do you experience God? What does that look like? Right, start today. And yeah, so pick up one of those books. We're going to have Richard Blackaby on, I think. I hope so, henry's son, I hope and we'll maybe talk about that.
Speaker 1:Awesome. Thank you, brother.
Speaker 2:God bless you Peace.
Speaker 3:Two friends for 20 years, speaking their truth about who Jesus is to them and why they want everyone to know him. I think that speaks to so many good things. First and most importantly, jesus died on that cross for you. Don't let that gift of eternity in heaven slip through your fingers. Second, that conversation is exactly what you get when two brothers make a purpose-filled decision to be authentic with each other, even after 20 years. They're wrestling through what they believe, how they got there and everything in between. They're wrestling through what they believe, how they got there and everything in between.
Speaker 3:Lastly, your relationship with God is between you and God. Don't let anyone tell you any different. He grabs hold of your heart and reveals to you his saving grace. I think that process is like a fingerprint and there are no two that are the same. We all have to respect that space, and he made you and me and everyone else relational beings. We can survive when we are alone, but we can thrive when we are in authentic community with other brothers. For the math wizards out there that don't like word problems, god plus you equals salvation. God plus you plus authentic relationships equals an abundant life that includes salvation. Lord, please continue to use this podcast to impact the lives of all who listen. I ask that you would bring hope and healing to each and every one of them. Meet them right where they are and reveal yourself to them like only you can do. In Jesus' name amen.
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